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Cosmographia Mods ([personal profile] wearethecrystalmods) wrote in [community profile] cosmoooc2015-12-01 01:15 pm
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How's The Game

HOW'S THE GAME?


Welcome to Cosmographia's first "How's the Game"! This is essentially an open forum for discussion about where to take the game from here and anything that might need changing. A lot has happened in the past week and going forward we feel it's more important than ever to have a discussion like this.

This is not a place for criticism of specific players or characters. This is purely about the game itself. Please save player specific criticisms for the upcoming How's My Driving. Any disregard for this or out of hand conduct will be frozen or deleted.

We are inviting not just all current players (old and new) to participate in this discussion but also past players that have left and new potential players considering the game; we encourage everyone to pitch in their two cents. That being said, since this is the game's first HTG we are currently going to do it without anon or sock journals (for future HTG this may change).

Like said this is a completely open forum. We have a list of topics we want to discuss (listed below), but after all those have gone up players are completely free to start their own threads with anything not covered by the other sections.

Current sections (please wait until all these are up and linked to post your own they're all up now!):

The Staff
Applications
Setting Suggestions
The World Outside Waverly Bay/Potential World Plot
Event Schedule/Power Distribution
Player Plot Approval
Power Limitations/Guidelines
Fate of Cosmonet
Network Comm?
Day Cycle Comments
The Temp. Drop System
Future Event/Plot Suggestions
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[personal profile] coneyislandcrazy 2015-12-03 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
Makes sense, or like maybe a free upgrade to those basics?

Like the weapon summoned can now get bigger, or you can summon duplicates?

Also should we nerf the shapeshifting? In the show the gems change shape but not color. Could make color changing an upgrade.
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[personal profile] 69problems 2015-12-03 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
NGL I've just been assuming we can't change color, I had no idea it was allowed.
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[personal profile] coneyislandcrazy 2015-12-03 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
Some people have some people haven't. I forgot when I first got Harley so she usually stays the same color except when she changes into "Harleen Quinzel"
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[personal profile] foolreversed 2015-12-03 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Sob, I admit in past posts I have... used shapeshifting just to change Adachi's colours so I could make jokes about the dumb shit they gave him for the dancing game. (And also his strange array of fighting game palettes that includes weird shit like the Joker, Riddler, April O'Neal..........) Was planning to do similar with Kanami too since most of her bonus costumes are also just... palette swaps.

Whoops...
Edited 2015-12-03 19:53 (UTC)
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[personal profile] foolreversed 2015-12-03 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
Ohhh, yes I like this idea, I'll have to run it by the others.

As for nerfing shapeshifting... ehhh, I think the ship has sort of set sail on that one. It's become such a big thing for so many characters already (and used in different ways too; some characters use it to change clothes, others specifically have it not do that) that it might not be fair to nerf it at this stage. Maybe just nerf the size and stuff.
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[personal profile] 69problems 2015-12-03 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, maybe set some basic guidelines on ALL the 'freebie' powers in the FAQ. And like, make it clear some characters can do different things with them depending on your preferences, but there are some hard rules about what's acceptable. So like, some people can chance clothes and some can't, but nobody can get too much bigger than their actual size. I know I definitely do Empathy differently than a lot of characters so it'd be nice to have a definite 'there's some wiggle room, just don't be a dink' rule.
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[personal profile] foolreversed 2015-12-03 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah definitely. We'll have to do it the same way with weapons too like "NO YOU CAN'T GO CRAZY WITH A CHAINSAW GUNBLADE TWICE THE SIZE OF YOUR TORSO"

Harder rules need to be in place in general
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[personal profile] nailed_it 2015-12-03 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
I'll fully admit that I'm coming from an extreme canon bias with this but how would weapon-summon restrictions affect characters from canons like RWBY (both in-game and future) who do have weird weaponry.
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[personal profile] foolreversed 2015-12-03 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
Well right now I'm talking mostly about the freebie weapon power, and how we'd like that to stay really basic.

It'll be something we'll have to talk about a bit more so don't take this as the definitive final stance, but you could still upgrade a weapon power into something more ridiculous just like other power upgrades, or perhaps suggest it as one of your unique powers (since it's possible for characters to have multiple weapons as separate powers and I would personally feel better giving someone a more over the top weapon if it was earned from an event)

Like let's use the silly weapon I made up in the above comment. It could start as a normal or small chainsaw, but then an upgrade could give it the gun feature and then another upgrade would increase its size.

For characters already in game things will probably stay as they are unless a power is super gamebreaky because idk I don't think it's fair to go back now and force you to depower your stuff.
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[personal profile] nailed_it 2015-12-03 05:06 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, okay. In that case, would characters still be allowed to app in with their weapons on-hand, assuming they would have had them on their person going through their hole? And then potentially upgrade their weapon summon power to encompass their custom weapon or something like that?

Either way, I definitely am glad to not have to worry about a possible nerf for my own character already in-game. XD She'd be very upset if her shot-gauntlets suddenly became normal gauntlets.

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[personal profile] coneyislandcrazy 2015-12-03 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
Sounds good to me, I like the shapeshifting too much to restrict it but it was something I wanted to bring up in case it was a problem.

Thank you !
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[personal profile] chatwithdeath 2015-12-03 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
I think limiting the size would be a good idea. As Ink said around their original size should work...

... Oh no, I just thought of Adachi as a 176 cm cat.
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[personal profile] 69problems 2015-12-03 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
Well like. Around their original size or smaller, presumably. Though them having to stay equivalent size would be hilarious if they wanted to shapeshift into something tiny like a bug and it goes Horribly Wrong.
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[personal profile] foolreversed 2015-12-03 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
...ok but imagine someone like Naoto getting annoyed because they can't make themselves a little taller.

(but yes i agree)
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[personal profile] hasmovedon 2015-12-03 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
Never have I been more glad to play a character that is 6'7''. Get dunked on, shorties.
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[personal profile] kelp_for_brains 2015-12-04 12:48 pm (UTC)(link)
As a sans roleplayer I don't know what to make of this
especially since he's hella short
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[personal profile] chatwithdeath 2015-12-03 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Don't even understand the girl's anger at that point omg
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[personal profile] pishirogane 2015-12-03 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
Gonna turn into a bug just to spite him.
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[personal profile] nailed_it 2015-12-03 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
Just on the suggestion for nerfing shape-shifting and I may be totally wrong but I think the Katamaris in-game kind of depend on shape-shifting being able to increase a character's size to some degree since they're naturally extremely tiny? To be fair, SU canon seems to suggest that characters can shape-shift to at least some size larger than their base height (The Purple Puma is at least twice Amethyst's normal height for example).

Would it be easier or make more sense to differentiate between say, shape-shifting and something like "height manipulation" as a power perhaps?
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[personal profile] foolreversed 2015-12-03 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
...Crap, I forgot about the small characters and Purple Puma.

I think height manipulation might make things complicated. It's probably more easier to just say "YOU CAN'T MAKE YOURSELF THE SIZE OF A KAIJU" or something
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[personal profile] nailed_it 2015-12-03 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
Lol, no worries! I'm not sure what all other canons have very small characters in them but just in case they were to app in and maybe didn't want their characters to be quite so tiny, having the option there would be nice.

/meanwhile quietly hides the plot she did last month where Yang sorta did grow to the size of a small kaiju oops
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[personal profile] foolreversed 2015-12-03 09:57 am (UTC)(link)
...Actually y'know for plot purposes that could be fine in that case, since plots will have to be approved by mods now before going through. As an everyday thing that'd be excessive but for a plot I actually see that as being a fun idea.

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[personal profile] strawberry_roll 2015-12-03 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, Ichigo actually got basic 'size-shifting' back rather than straight shapeshifting during that event, but I've been careful not to have her go crazy with it.

But anyway, she and Vel's holes accounted for their naturally being tiny by being big enough they had to 'grow up' a little to fit into them. So Ichigo was stuck at 45cm, and Vel's currently stuck at 54cm... which is significantly bigger than their 'default' heights back in canon without going overboard. And while Ichi got size-shifting back, I haven't planned for her to go too far beyond that. She's still treating 45cm as her 'default' for Cosmos, and mainly shifting smaller, not larger.

...Really, all she's used going larger for is to be able to do some clothes shopping. And I haven't had her go past about average height for a nine or ten-year-old child.

...If that still needs to be nerfed, though, let me know! We can hash it out in PMs or something...
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[personal profile] foolreversed 2015-12-04 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, don't worry about it, that should all be fine. I'm not too concerned with nerfing shapeshifting right now anyway, everyone's been considerate using it so I don't see a problem with it.